15 | Suffering is Caring, Vulnerability is Strength. With Lucas Mack

Topics: Vulnerability is strength. What does vulnerability say about our ability to grow, learn, and develop? What is suffering, and is it necessary or can it be avoided? How do different philosophies and religions view these topics? Why does our society seek to blame, rather than to heal or understand? The importance of gratitude.

Show 15 of the Dialogues podcast

I’m very happy to be joined once again by Lucas Mack. This is his second time on The Dialogues. (you can listen to our previous episode, here)

A characteristic of the world today, and perhaps especially the United States, is a desire to blame the world, the neighbor, or those who disagree with us, for all of our problems. Blame has become central to political speech, campaign platforms, and basic communication on social media.

But, to quote Lucas: “He who controls the narrative… controls the people.”

So how can a new narrative be formed where healing, growth, and freedom are the objectives; rather than blame, division, and group vs group power dynamics?

We also discuss the idea of trauma and suffering. We all experience this, in our time and our turn, and there are many schools of thought which attempt to educate us on this journey – deny pleasure, control your desires, and so on.

Yet we always seem to want more out of life…

Of course, we do not want to suffer. But we do want to live a life where we do suffer under certain circumstances. This is not to say we are morally better, it simply means we care about something. To care is to accept the possibility of suffering.

This is also the meaning of “bearing your own cross,” if it is indeed worth bearing.

“The constancy of the wise is only the talent of concealing the agitation of their hearts.” – Francois de la Rochefoucauld

Recorded on November 18, 2018.

You can follow Lucas on Instagram @lucasjamesmack, and check out his podcast(s) at lucasmack.com

About The Dialogues

The philosophical dialogue is not merely a literary style, but an approach to thinking, reasoning, exploring, and educating. 

More and more, it seems we no longer have dialogue, debate, and discourse, but orders, authority, and rigidity. 

This series is meant to revive the style and approach in keeping with the philosophical tradition. Join me in reviving and rebuilding the ancient Agora, using the tools of the 21st century.

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